DRD Team

tried to start player with a z-hight of 128 , floor is -128 , celing is 256 , 3D sector is Floor 8 Celing 0. player allways starts at -128 floor.???

Players always start on floor level. You may need to add a dummy sector at the player start and immediately after starting the map change its height.

thank you did not know if I was doing it wrong

Would it be much trouble to change the behaviour? The fact that one has to resort to the fix that you mentioned is rather tedious.

Can't you just do it with Fraggle Script?

Changing the player obj position with FS is easy enough, ACS would be able to do it too:

setobjposition(playerobj(0),X,Y,Z)

But it's really no different than changing the height of a dummy sector.

What do you guys mean when you say "change the height of the dummy sector"

In all my years of DOOM editing, I don't think I've ever messed with "dummy sectors".

This what you had in mind?

If you want to remove the clunk at the start when the supporting sector drops, just stick a silent sound sequence in it.

EDIT:


Nevermind, I'm off work, I'll see for myself!

Why can't we put player starts on 3D Floors anyway? wouldn't it be too much trouble to add it in?

What I usually do is I put a map spot with gravity at the 3-d floor, and at the start, use ACS to silently teleport the player to the map spot.

I tried just raising the Z-Height of the Player 1 start thing to get it on the 3D floor, but it just started on the floor of the non-3D sector.

Which, of course, is exactly what Graf said it would do. I know that player starts have special handling anyway, so a Z position player start spot may not be possible. If they were, they should be additional to the original item, rather than a modification of it. I'm sure that there must be many WADs out there where the author has inadvertantly given the P1 start a Z value and these may look bad, or even get broken, by a change in behaviour. There have certainly been many WADs where the author has mistakenly given other items a Z value.

Of course, whether the game can handle 2 types of player 1 start, I have no idea.

I opened the map, it has a floor raised up for the player to stand and start on, but in the game that floor is not there.

how do I do that?

Could save me some scripting time!

Maybe give the floor lowering action a delay before it should lower? Like a delay of 1 tic or something like that.