[Graf] Okay this zip isn't working

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 20:19

Right, that big project a while ago? Eatme? I've tried converting it into a zip. Running it gives me a crash report. Could you explain what's causing it or have any ideas how to prevent it?

I've emailed you the zip and report

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 20:23

Well.. I would if I could locate your email address again...

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 21:34

Look at a post of me in the ZDoom forums. I won't post my mail address in an open forum anymore. I already get enough spam.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 22:53

Graf Zahl wrote:Look at a post of me in the ZDoom forums. I won't post my mail address in an open forum anymore. I already get enough spam.

I've been looking.

Edit: Sent!

Edit2: Erm, well I thought it sent anyway. Outlook was being an annoyance before I went to bed last night. If it's not there give me a shout.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:44

No, it's not here. Please try again.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 17:15

God I hate outlook *uses gmail*

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 17:27

I er.. think it's sent now

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 18:05

Let's start:

1) not critical but inadvisable: Don't use BMPs. Either use PNGs or Doom patches. BMPs result in slightly reduced performance and the graphics won't work with the software renderer. Furthermore, when using BMPs the offset and transparency information is lost.
2) thumbs.db = big problem. The texture initialization code is not robust enough to handle unrecognizable data in all cases.
3) There is no 'lumps' folder that is being recognized. All its contents must be in the main directory.

The crash occurs when DevIL fails to read a graphics lump. But it doesn't happen with my most recent build and is the same as Enjay's bug.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 18:12

1) No bmps? PNGS need to be used i'm guessing? Oh god, looks like that's me busy for the rest of the night (unless there's some quick convertion tool out there)

2) Damn those things.

3) So I can't make any custom folders? Ah, oh well nevermind.

Btw, you might notice in the Lumps folder that I made that the TEXTURE1 and PNAMES were there. They still work right? I mean, I won't have to go through the trouble of converting all my current textures?

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 18:27

Cutmanmike wrote:1) No bmps? PNGS need to be used i'm guessing? Oh god, looks like that's me busy for the rest of the night (unless there's some quick convertion tool out there)

It's not just BMP/PNG but you have to preserve the offsets and transparency information. If that is too much work just extract all the lumps as raw patch data from the WAD and put them in.

3) So I can't make any custom folders? Ah, oh well nevermind.

Intentionally not. Keep in mind that in the future more subdirectories might be used directly by ZDoom (as already for mapinfo/ and actors/) Therefore only a very limited amount of directories are mapped into the global namespace.

Btw, you might notice in the Lumps folder that I made that the TEXTURE1 and PNAMES were there. They still work right? I mean, I won't have to go through the trouble of converting all my current textures?

No, that works ok. For the engine these are just regular lumps without any special properties.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 19:08

Graf Zahl wrote:It's not just BMP/PNG but you have to preserve the offsets and transparency information. If that is too much work just extract all the lumps as raw patch data from the WAD and put them in.

Umm... You've lost me. Could you explain all that?

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 21:42

Don't export your graphics as BMPs, export them as raw data. How did you get these BMPs anyway?

TheDarkArchon · Post by **TheDarkArchon** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 21:52

XWE and WinTex output exported patches as BMPs.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 22:10

XWE can also export as raw.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:26

Graf Zahl wrote:Don't export your graphics as BMPs, export them as raw data. How did you get these BMPs anyway?

Well uh... *cough*wintex

I'll try it when I get home.