0 brightness still bright?

YouTube · Post by **Nash** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 23:08

I'm messing around with a horror project which I've always wanted to pull off ever since regular ZDoom, and now that GZDoom is here, I can finally make use of ZDoom's editing features PLUS dynamic lighting and put together an atmospheric horror experience.

Problem is, even at 0 brightness, the sectors are still kind of bright and visible.

Is there anything I can do to achieve pitch black darkness?

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 23:31

Since 0 isn't totally dark in software mode either I capped the minimum light level so that WADs that use 0 light according to software mode are still playable. Right now there is no means to create complete darkness except for using a black texture.

YouTube · Post by **Nash** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 23:34

Hmm. I'll guess I'll just tell the users to turn their monitor brightness down for maximum experience, or something.

Ixnatifual · Post by **Ixnatifual** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 21:32

This annoys me somewhat. I have some maps that use dark corners to hide monsters, but this trick no longer works since my 32 and 64 brightness seem to be as bright as ~100, and now you can see the monsters from far away instead of when you are very close

Also have an area where you enter a tunnel, the lights go out and you are covered in darkness, while a monster is spawned behind you. This looks awesome in software mode because you see the demon as a black silhouet against the bright room outside the tunnel, but now it just looks dull

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 21:40

The only difference between brightness 100 and lower is the density of the black 'fog'. If you have disabled this you won't be able to see any difference at all. Aside from that the software renderer's fade isn't replicable with a hardware renderer and you must not forget that in True Color the color resolution in dark areas is significantly higher than in software mode. Sorry.

smg m7 · Post by **smg m7** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 23:13

Maybe a sectyor special could acheive total blackness. Unfortunately, it would only work if you wanted to see nothing at all. Plus, Zdoom wads using 0 as pitch black that fade in wouldn't work. Maybe the special could only work on a totally dark sector?

Ixnatifual · Post by **Ixnatifual** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 23:34

Everything else looks better in OpenGL so I guess I can live with it.

smg m7 · Post by **smg m7** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:39

Although it is a very annoying problem when doing cutscenes... Nonetheles, there's always camera switching.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:20

A horror wad? I can't wait, I love those

smg m7 · Post by **smg m7** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 13:48

Yeah, unfortunately, nobody seems real interested at the Zdoom forums.

Ixnatifual · Post by **Ixnatifual** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 14:04

I'm trying to create some horror atmosphere in some of my maps too, which usually includes plenty of dark areas. In these areas it's easy in software mode to make a patch of extra dark area, but the general atmosphere is just more scary in OpenGL, doom brightness and depth fog.

I don't like completely black areas so I'll not go there.