Can't place MD2 monsters in Editor.

[metroid014]

Ok I have MD2 monsters for my WAD, and they work just fine. However... they only work when I spawn them (either through ACS or the console "Summon XXX"). For example I have a monster set as "DoomImp replaces DoomImp". When I have an imp placed through Doom Builder it will give me the spriteless thing error. However if I type in "Summon DoomImp", it will work just fine... please help?

[dark-slayer-201]

it is usually best if you post a link to the whole file.

[Rex Claussen]

Ok I have MD2 monsters for my WAD, and they work just fine. However... they only work when I spawn them (either through ACS or the console "Summon XXX"). For example I have a monster set as "DoomImp replaces DoomImp". When I have an imp placed through Doom Builder it will give me the spriteless thing error. However if I type in "Summon DoomImp", it will work just fine... please help?

In the actor's DECORATE definition, have you assigned it a DooMEd ID number? [I'm guessing the answer is yes, as otherwise I'm not sure how you could put the thing into a map via DB.]

It's possible that the spawn definition in DECORATE needs to be modified. I believe the frames to reference will need to be defined in the model, and in your MODELDEF.

Ask Enjay, as he would likely be able to immediately pinpoint your problem.

[Enjay]

It's a little difficult to tell from the description. However, my guess is that it's nothing to do with the model or the modeldef at all.

He says that when he places the thing in an editor, he sees the "spriteless thing error". Assuming that he means the little <!> symbol, that indicates that there is a thing placed in the map that (G)Zdoom knows nothing about. ie, probably a DoomEdNum error rather than anything else.

[Graf Zahl]

That thing also appears if a sprite is used which doesn't have any graphics. It's not enough to define a sprite for replacement by a model. It has to actually be there!

[Enjay]

How would that be versus summoning/spawning it where he says it works?

[Graf Zahl]

Different code that doesn't do these checks.

[metroid014]

My apologies, I could have been much clearer on that. Following what Graf said do I need to have a sprite in place for every single frame of my model? Or do I just need one for the first of each state (Idle, See).

[Graf Zahl]

Just the first one is enough. In general it's probably best you use existing IWAD sprite names for model-only actors so that you don't have to add your own sprites for basically nothing.